WHO ARE THE ‘GLORIOUS ONES’ MENTIONED AT 2 Peter 2:10?

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All anointed – The Watchtower 9/1/1960 p. 539 par. 14 – Awake Worshipers in the Time of the End

The “glorious ones” here referred to are not any who are bright and shining in their own eyes or who are glorious in the eyes of others due to their personal achievements. Those who are the brothers of the King Jesus Christ have been selected as heirs of the heavenly kingdom—a glorious privilege indeed!

All anointed – The Watchtower 10/1/1965 p. 592 par. 7 – Execution of Divine Judgment upon the Ungodly

Who are these “glorious ones”? They must be those who receive glory from Jehovah God and his Lord of lords, Jesus Christ. According to Isaiah 60:1, 2, Jehovah’s “own glory” would be conferred upon the remnant of spiritual Israel, the anointed Christians.

Elders – The Watchtower 1/15/1979 p. 25 – Why Keep Free from Murmuring?

They were individuals who were “disregarding lordship and speaking abusively of glorious ones,” or responsible men in the congregation.

Elders – The Watchtower 1/15/1980 p. 19 par. 10 – Are You a Loyal Subject of God’s Government?

Further describing them, the apostle says: “Daring, self-willed, they do not tremble at glorious ones [persons entrusted with oversight within God’s congregation] but speak abusively.”

Anointed elders – The Watchtower 8/15/1982 p. 28 pars. 14-15 – Heed the ‘Warnings Placed Before Us’!

Those ungodly persons also spoke abusively of “glorious ones” (literally, “of glories”), evidently those who had certain glory conferred upon them by Jehovah God and Jesus Christ… 15 Certainly, those of Christ’s anointed followers who serve faithfully as appointed Christian overseers have had glory, or honor, conferred upon them.

Anointed elders – The Watchtower 9/15/1989 p. 22 par. 8 – Be Obedient to Those Taking the Lead

Surely, we do not want to be like the “ungodly men” of Jude’s day who ‘disregarded lordship and spoke abusively of glorious ones,’ anointed Christian elders with God-given glory, or honor, conferred upon them.

Anointed elders – The Watchtower 4/15/1991 p. 31 – Beware of Apostates!

Unlike the archangel Michael, who would not even bring a judgment against the Devil in abusive terms, the ungodly men spoke abusively of “glorious ones,” evidently those with certain glory conferred upon them by God and Christ as anointed elders.

Elders – The Watchtower 9/1/1997 pp. 15-16 pars. 13-14 – Beware of False Teachers!

Jude writes that “these men, . . . indulging in dreams, are defiling the flesh . . . and speaking abusively of glorious ones.” (2 Peter 2:10; Jude 8) In what sense, though, do they “look down on lordship” and speak “abusively of glorious ones”? 14 They do so in that they despise divinely constituted authority. Christian elders represent the glorious Jehovah God and his Son and, as a result, have certain glory conferred upon them. True, they make mistakes, as did Peter himself, but the Scriptures urge members of the congregation to be submissive to such glorious ones.

Elders – The Watchtower 6/1/1998 p. 17 par. 10 – “Put Up a Hard Fight for the Faith”!

But if we dwell on their faults and undermine respect for them, might we be “speaking abusively of glorious ones”? In verse 10, Jude mentions those who “are speaking abusively of all the things they really do not know.” Some will, at times, criticize a decision made by a body of elders or a judicial committee.

Elders – The Watchtower 11/15/2008 p. 22 par. 9 – Highlights From the Letters of James and of Peter

While “glorious ones,” that is, Christian elders, have faults and may err at times, we must not speak abusively of them.

ARE THERE ENOUGH ELDERS?

1102015406_univ_cnt_1_xlNO – The Watchtower p. 4 par. 3 – Elders, How Do You Feel About Training Others?

more brothers are needed to keep existing congregations spiritually strong and to allow new congregations to be formed.

NO – The Watchtower 9/15/2014 p. 3 – Are You “Reaching Out”?

there is a need for more brothers to reach out

YES – The Watchtower 11/15/2013 p. 20 par. 16 – Seven Shepherds, Eight Dukes—What They Mean for Us Today

Today, Jehovah certainly has provided an abundance of spiritual men to shepherd his precious sheep

NO – The Watchtower 11/15/2011 p. 2 Table of Contents

There is a need for men who can take the lead in spiritual matters

NO – The Watchtower 11/15/2011 p. 28 par. 2 – Train Others to Reach Out

there continues to be a need for men to take the lead in spiritual matters. For instance, Christian elders are greatly needed.

NO – The Watchtower 11/15/2011 p. 32 par. 17 – Train Others to Reach Out

consider the fact that there is a great need for mature men to accept privileges of service in God’s organization

NO – The Watchtower 5/15/2010 p. 24 par. 3 Brothers—Sow to the Spirit and Reach Out!

there is a great need for ministerial servants and elders today

NO – The Watchtower 11/15/2006 p. 13 – A School Whose Graduates Benefit People Worldwide

there is an ever-increasing need for dedicated men to reach out for greater responsibility

NO – The Watchtower 1/1/2001 p. 9 par. 7 – Be Built Up by Love

there is a great need for more elders

NO – The Watchtower 1/1/1993 p. 21 par. 14 – Shepherding With Our Grand Creator

There is an outstanding need for all baptized male Witnesses to reach out for further privileges

NO – The Watchtower 4/15/1990 p. 25 – ‘Fishing for Men’ in Belize

There is a great need for mature brothers to take the lead in the congregations.

YES – The Watchtower 9/1/1980 p. 21 par. 1 – Overseers—Be Fine Examples to “the Flock”

This fact is recognized by thousands of dedicated, spiritual men who are entrusted with this privilege today

WHO APPOINTS ELDERS?

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The Governing Body (1938) – The Watchtower 2/1/1999 p. 18 par. 18 – Our Treasure in Earthen Vessels

The year 1938 was crucial in clearly identifying the two classes. The March 15 and April 1, 1938, issues of The Watchtower presented the two-part study “His Flock” and made clear the relative places of the anointed remnant and their companions, the great crowd. Then the June 1 and June 15 issues carried study articles on “Organization,” based on Isaiah 60:17. All congregations were called on to request the Governing Body to appoint local servants, thus bringing in an improved, God-ordained, theocratic arrangement.

The Governing Body – The Watchtower 10/15/2008 p. 23 par. 12 – Do You Take the Lead in Showing Honor?

First, it is Scriptural for “the faithful and discreet slave” through its Governing Body to appoint men to positions of responsibility.

Circuit Overseers – Letter to Body of Elders 7/3/14 E

Dear Brothers:

1. As previously announced, effective September 1, 2014, circuit overseers will be responsible for the appointment and deletion of elders and ministerial servants. This letter provides further direction regarding this adjustment.

Note: So if it was ‘theocratic’ in 1938 and ‘scriptural’ in 2008, did it become untheocratic and unscriptural in 2014, or was it actually untheocratic and unscriptural up to 2008 all along?

WHAT DOES ‘MARKING’ MEAN (2THESS 3:14)?

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They are disfellowshipped – The Watchtower 11/15/1952 p. 704 – Questions From Readers

The purpose of observing the disfellowship order is to make the disfellowshiped one realize the error of his way and to shame him, if possible, so that he may be recovered, and also to safeguard your own salvation to life in the new world in vindication of God. (2 Thess. 3:14, 15)

They are SHAMED – The Watchtower 9/15/1954 p. 565 par. 15 – True Love Is Practical

There are proper ways of shaming people with a view to their taking the right course. (2 Thess 3:14-15)

They are NOT disfellowshipped – The Watchtower 9/15/1965 p. 575 – Questions From Readers

At 2 Thessalonians 3:14, 15, was the apostle Paul discussing disfellowshiping?— Apparently not.

They ARE disfellowshipped – The Watchtower 4/1/1971 p. 224 – Questions From Readers

There may be an occasion when the presiding minister announces to the congregation that its representatives have had to expel an unrepentant sinner or had to offer strong discipline to someone because of his unchristian conduct. The members of the congregation are informed so that they can avoid that one altogether or be careful in his presence, as the case may require. (2 Thess. 3:14, 15)

They are NOT disfellowshipped – The Watchtower 5/15/1973 p. 319 – Questions From Readers

these “disorderly” ones were not committing grave offenses such as fornication, idolatry or extortion, offenses which could oblige the congregation to remove them, if unrepentant, disfellowshiping them.

They are marked by individuals in the congregation – The Watchtower 5/15/1973 p. 319 – Questions From Readers

…the members of the congregation individually would do the marking.

They are marked by the elders – The Watchtower 12/1/1976 p. 734 par. 17 – Giving Reproof “Before All Onlookers”

Thereby the congregation would be able to identify any who engaged in these as a bad influence against which to protect themselves.

They are marked by individuals in the congregation – The Watchtower 9/15/1978 p.13 par. 8 – What Does Jehovah Require…?

…individual Christians may have to determine whether the unruly conduct of certain persons associated with the congregation makes them undesirable companions.

They are marked by the elders – The Watchtower 4/15/1985 p. 31 – Questions From Readers

The Christian congregation today also applies this counsel. The Watchtower of February 1, 1982, page 31, stressed that marking is not to be done over mere private opinions or when a Christian personally chooses to avoid close association with someone. First the elders try repeatedly to help the violator by admonishing him. If the problem persists, they may, without naming the person, give a warning talk to the congregation concerning the disorderly conduct involved, even as Paul warned the Thessalonians. After that, individual Christians would keep the erring person “marked.”

They are marked by individuals in the congregation – The Watchtower 12/15/2013 p. 8 par. 9 – Avoid Being “Quickly Shaken From Your Reason”!

If ever someone attending our congregation meetings would try to entice us into discussions of personal speculations or critical conversations, we should definitely be on guard.—2 Thess. 3:13-15.

CAN A MINISTERIAL SERVANT SIT ON A JUDICIAL COMMITTEE?

YES – Kingdom Ministry 9/77 p. 6 par. 37 New Arrangements for Congregation Organization

If a congregation is in an isolated area and it is not convenient to have elders from a distant place sit with the local judicial committee members, then a well-qualified ministerial servant may be selected to complete the judicial committee.

NO – Letter to Body of Elders July 11th 2014 (7/11/14E)

Ministerial servants should not be used to serve on judicial committees.